We have finished looking at the subject of “hell” concluding that “hell” is not a biblical word and E.C.T. is a false doctrine created by religion. Every single Bible verse which uses the word “hell” along with “forever and ever,” “everlasting,” “evermore,” and ” eternal,” is wrongly translated.
Eph 3:16-18 I desire for you to become intimately acquainted with the love of Christ on the deepest possible level; far beyond the reach of a mere academic, intellectual grasp. So that you may be filled with all the fullness of God! Awaken to the consciousness of his closeness! Separation is an illusion! Oneness was God’s idea all along!
God’s love is stronger than death. God is love and God’s love brings true justice. God wants all His creation to know His love personally and intimately. We can all know God’s love to deeper and deeper levels.
The concepts of God’s judgment and justice have been distorted through the religious lens of fear. This distortion occurs because there is a lack of personal knowledge of God’s nature, character and heart. When we know God we see judgment, justice and mercy cannot be separated.
Love, judgment, justice, grace and mercy are equal partners in God. The judgment of God on sickness is healing so health is true justice. The justice of God is the mercy of God. The justice of God seeks to restores all things.
The judgment of God on man’s separation from love is salvation with adoption into His heart and family forever, that is the justice of God. The judgment of God on addiction and bondage is freedom and grace to stay free, and that is the justice and mercy of God.
If your theology around judgment and justice involves fear, it may be time to take a look at the glorious love of God and rethink so we can agree with His love in establishing it on the earth to the fullest measure. – Elizabeth Cooper.
If “hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment what does happen to people who don’t yet know Jesus after they die? Death is not the end of anyone’s ability to accept Jesus as Lord and know the Father. There are no bible verses that show that death is the end of choice.
2 Cor 5:19 God has reconciled the cosmos to Himself including everyone and everything. God has done His part, but we must do our part by accepting what He has already done and be reconciled to Him it is not automatic. We have to accept His love it is never forced on us.
There are many figures of speech that are used to describe attributes of God. God is like a tower, shield, banner, shepherd, bread, fountain, potter, lamb, lion, rock, vine etc. God is actually love, spirit, light and a consuming fire. Fire is not literal flames that burn. Think the function of fire not the form.
Consuming fire is a description of what happens in God’s presence. Love’s refining and purifying fire both for believers and not yet believers. The consuming fire of God’s presence is where people go after death, but it is not real flames that burn and torture people.
I have engaged fire in the spiritual realms in many different ways just like I have engaged living water. It is not literal H2O or fire. I have never been burnt or drowned. Where people go after death is a real dimensional place within God and we perceive it as fire.
The New Age and occult movements have popularized such Eastern concepts as the transmigration of souls, reincarnation, spiritualism, and communication with the dead. People claim to be able to contact the spirits of the dead. Mostly they are connecting with familiar spirits or demon’s not dead people.
The enemy counterfeits many things that are genuine. Heb 12:23 states we can engage with the cloud of witnesses who are physically dead, but they are alive soul and spirit and they are surrounding us. People’s souls are not reincarnated but they are conscious whether in the heavenly realms or the fiery realm.
Why this fascination with the world beyond the grave? Because death seems so final. Death by any means accidental, deliberate, disease or natural causes will be the end of life as we have known it. Heb 2:15 People are bound by the fear of death.
The view of “hell” being a big party where you get to carry on doing all your sinning forever is a joke constructed out of fear rather than facing the truth. The view of “hell” as a place where all the demon’s hangout with Satan and torment is also a wrong concept created by religion that uses fear to control.
There are genuine questions people have about death and the afterlife that arise out of fear and uncertainty. What will happen to me or my loved ones when we die. What happens to children who die? What about miscarriages or abortions?
Should children be treated differently from everyone else? Is there a cut off age after which children are then responsible? Even infernalists seem to have a soft spot for children.
What does happen to children, aborted children or miscarriages etc? I have engaged some of my family, they are in an amazing dimensional place. They are being trained by angels and are maturing they still have a destiny and a role to play.
Even after physical death anyone can still choose Jesus as Lord or they can choose to remain in the fire in a DIY self-righteous state. There are other biblical indicators that a relationship with God is still possible after physical death.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, 25 In the daytime (for there will be no night there) its gates will never be closed;
Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost. The ability to come does not end.
The gates of the New Jerusalem are never shut even after the final judgment that Futurists believe or after AD70 judgment for a Preterist. The Spirit and bride (believers) are still calling people outside to come through the gates into the New Jerusalem, Bride or Church.
Rev 5:13 “I heard EVERY creature IN heaven, ON earth, UNDER the earth, ON the sea, and EVERYTHING in them say: Blessing and honor and glory and dominion to the One seated on the throne and to the Lamb, forever and ever! “This is a totally inclusive picture.
Rev 21:5 “Then He who sat on the throne said, ‘Behold, I make ALL things new’. God will dwell with men and he will wipe every tear from their eyes, death, mourning, crying, pain and the old order of things will pass and everything and everybody will be made new.
Death is an important issue as it was linked to the lie that deceived Eve, Adam took responsibility for her by choice. Satan said, “You certainly will not die,” people do die spiritually and physically but: People do not just cease to exist. People do not just enter soul sleep. People’s bodies sleep figuratively but their soul/spirit remains conscious.
What happened between Jesus’ declaration it is finished on the cross dying physically and being resurrected? Where did Jesus go and what did He do? Matt 12:40 for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus spent 3 days in the grave just as He predicted. Was He just asleep or was He active? If He was active, what did He do there? This is really important as Jesus has told us to do the things He did and greater things. Is there something we are supposed to do like He did?
Eph 4:8 Therefore it says, “When He ascended on high, He led captive a host of captives, 9 Now this expression, “He ascended,” what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth? – Hades or Sheol. Rom 10:7 or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).”
Jesus descended figuratively into the lower parts or heart of the earth, into the grave, into hades, into the abyss before He was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. Rev 1:18 … I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades. Did He get those figurative keys there?
When Jesus ascended into heaven in a cloud that cloud was the host of captives who were then part of the cloud of witnesses • How and why did Jesus free the captives? 1 Peter 3:19: Christ “went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison.” What did He proclaim?
It was not their eternal damnation that was being proclaimed. 1 Peter 4:5 but they will give account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. 6 For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live in the spirit according to the will of God.
It was the Gospel that Jesus preached. What would be the point preaching to the spirits if they could not respond, that would really be torture. Euaggelizó The gospel is the message of good news, glad tidings. This is where we get our word evangelism from, to announce good news. “hell and punishment is not good news.
Jesus went into Hades or in Hebrew Sheol which seems to have once had 2 parts one for the righteous – Paradise and the other for the unrighteous departed souls. He preached to those there and took captivity captive in other words He emptied the place.
Matt 27:50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split.52 The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they entered the holy city and appeared to many.
What was the purpose of what Jesus did beside the obvious? Eph 4:10 He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things. 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
Eph 1:10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him. 1 Cor 15:28 so that God may be all in all. Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.
Hebrews 1:2: “He [God] has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things.” What sort of things do you suppose Jesus Christ is interested in inheriting? Col 1:16 – Creation everything that was created by Him and for Him including all of mankind.
Act 3:20 and that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you, 21 whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time. You will see the concept of restoration right throughout the bible.
It has been God’s plan from the beginning that all His children would experience His love. God’s desire is to restore us and everything into that love relationship. We all have a part to play both by being restored and preaching the good news of reconciliation.
Justice: is it just for God to separate people from Himself eternally? If Jesus died for everyone and God reconciled everyone to himself then eternal separation can’t be true justice. There are so many situations that don’t seem fair even to us if separation is forever.
Those unfortunate souls who were born in all those different cultures who sincerely worshipped all those false gods and never heard the gospel. Those Mormons or JW who strive to do good works but were deceived by religion. The New Agers seeking the spiritual light. They were sincerely wrong so tough luck.
Imagine a God who would reject those people and send them to “hell” for eternity with no possibility of escape, who would want to know him? The toughest, meanest, most hate filled earthly judge wouldn’t find E.C.T. a just sentence! But we can’t just use our own reasoning to determine what seems fair or not.
We have to see justice and fairness through the lens of love. Through the life of Jesus, the living word who is the express image of God. What Jesus did in His ministry on earth and in His death, burial, resurrection and ascension will show us what is righteous, just and fair.
While God was deconstructing my mind he gave me experiences that demonstrated the strength of His love and they challenged my beliefs and what I thought the bible said to be true. This process was not easy for me as the mind-sets, doctrines and theological frameworks of my thinking were strong.
For 3 weeks I felt severe pressure around my mind almost like a physical pain. It was over the issue of “hell”. God was challenging me but my mind’s belief systems didn’t want me to go there. I was not willing to go there even though love encounters were making it difficult to deny what I now believe, until Jesus actually took me to the fire to see.
Wisdom heights was my entrance. Prov 8:1 Does not wisdom call, and understanding lift up her voice? 2 On top of the heights beside the way, where the paths meet, she takes her stand; 3 beside the gates, at the opening to the city, at the entrance of the doors, she cries out.
Wisdom first took me to Satan’s trophy room. I was a given a seal and staff and accessed from a door on Wisdom’s heights. It was a tunnel of fire that led to a large door which opened into a place of extreme restriction and sadness.
Satan’s trophy room where I saw 3 things. The sparkling diamond trophies of the destinies of those living and dead but not yet saved. Stolen mantles and crowns. An area of the heritage of my generational family lines.
Jesus took me back there through the fire. He showed me the heritage area and I looked at my father’s, family line. Jesus, do you want to see this restored? How? I saw a door I did not see before.
He gave me a heralding trumpet and we went through the door into the fire. People were there as isolated individuals in anguish of soul. I preached the good news but not very well as I felt overwhelmed with love and unprepared.
Jesus turned to walk out and I followed Him through the tunnel of fire. I went through the door on Wisdom’s heights that was like a fiery sword. We looked back and some souls had followed us to the door/sword as they approached I saw them kneel.
I heard them confess Jesus as Lord and they walked out and went through the gates into Zion. I said to Jesus I am in trouble now how do I explain this? Jesus said, “Just tell people that you are doing what I did, and I told you to do what I did.”
Not many of them followed us out of the fire. I asked Jesus why they didn’t all come out. Son you can only preach with authority to the degree that the fire has consumed generational things in you, that is why not everyone responded.
Keep presenting yourself to the fire of the altar and you will be able to reach more of your generational lines. As you embrace the coals to touch areas of your life that have come from your generations that will give you authority.
I present myself on the altar in the temple every day. I have been back to engage each of my 4 generation family lines. In China I woke at 3am and felt a strong desire to engage the altar and ask for the fiery coals to touch a specific area of behavior.
As I was experiencing the fire I began forgiving each of my 4 generational lines for participating in this behavior. Once I finished, I went to the fiery place again. I preached to all my generational lines with boldness blew the silver trumpet and many more responded.
On a Sunday morning here as I was embracing the fire another area surfaced. I again went back and preached with renewed boldness. Many more responded. Communion in the fire. I want to empty that place but I need to embrace the fire myself.
As I have been talking with others I have heard many testimonies of people who have gone into the fire and preached the good news as Jesus did. Nancy Cohen has many testimonies of the restoration of all things. I have now had many experiences of going into the place of fire myself. Both for personal refining and on rescue missions.
I have had a number of emails from people thanking me opening up this discussion as they had been afraid of sharing their experiences. A friend was engaging heaven and was surprised to meet some family members there. This did not fit his theology, but God was destroying his theological boxes.
This is not a new doctrine this was the position of many of the early church fathers and others through last 2000 years. Clement of Alexandria, St Macrina, St Gregory Nyssen, St Isaac of Nineveh (and many other Fathers), and among moderns including Fr. Sergei Bulgakov, St Silouan the Athonite, Fr. Alexandre Turincev, Metropolitans Kallistos Ware and Hilarion Alfeyev.
There are many accusations that people throw at so called universalists of which I am not. What is the point of preaching the gospel? I might as well just keep sinning if there are no consequences to my behavior.
Hopeful inclusivism says that we cannot presume that all will be saved or that even one will be damned. Rather, we put our hope in the final victory and verdict of Jesus Christ, whose mercy endures for all ages and whose lovingkindness is age enduring.
I am not asking you to believe me these are my experiences, and I don’t intend making a doctrine about them. I do encourage you to seek God for yourself. Ask Him to reveal the truth about His love for you and all His creation. Embrace that truth and be part of the restoration of all things.
On Thursday during an encounter Jesus said come and walk with Me. He held my hand and took Me through some gates into a large hall near the court of the upright. Here are those that have come out of the fire. There were many at benches with men in white linen around them as if teaching or imparting.
There were also angels present as if overseeing the training. There were warrior angels standing to attention. This is where those who are being rescued from the fire go to be instructed in the truth and the ways of relationship. The fire has done its work and now relationship must do its work in preparing them for destiny.
They have a different role than the others as they have been through a different process. They will be released for the coming harvest with the Hunter Gatherer angels you see here. They will be sent to carry a message of love through consuming fire that will turn a generation to true repentance.
They will become ambassadors of fire with passion to remove the veils of deception just as those who came out of the graves who were witnesses of what I did under the earth at my resurrection. These are witnesses to the power of love to overcome even the choices of death and with warnings of the consequences of where they have been.
They are being prepared to be at the disposal of the Joshua generation to engage the harvest that is coming. There is an urgency for My brothers to do what I did and preach the good news of My love to your generations and see your heritage restored.
Release this message and encourage the Joshua Generation to arise and be bold to come to Me and I will open the gates to reveal the consuming fire and show them the way just as I have shown you. Remember the refining fire of the altar is where the authority to preach will be given. Embrace the fire with urgent desire and great authority well be released to you.
I believe we get to choose when we go to the place of fire we can go now or later but God is a consuming fire and we cannot escape His love. God’s love is an unquenchable fire, intended to refine and purify us. Choose to embrace the fire now.
I believe we all have the ability to engage the fiery place and do what Jesus did, preach the good news to those spheres that we are mandated to engage. I am going to ask Jesus to take you to the fire of the altar and give you access to preach the good news
Engaging God the Father
Close your eyes and begin to think of Jesus ask Him to take you into the fire of His presence. Let the passionate fire of His love consume you. Let the fire of love in His eyes penetrate deep into your soul.
Let the fire of His perfect love remove all fear, guilt and shame. Ask Jesus to take you to the river of fire. Ask Him to take you to the Judgment seat or the altar and engage the Seraphim.
Ask Jesus to take you to Wisdom’s Heights and give you access to Satan’s trophy room and to the place of consuming fire. Ask Jesus to show you how to engage your generations with the good news and restore your heritage.